TAOTRA Section Eight

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SECTION Eighth.

How this Government altogether differeth from the Oppressing and Persecuting Principality of the Church of * Rome, and other Antichristian Assemblies.*

Whatever Way we understand the Popish Principles in this Matter, whether of those that are most devoted to the Sea of Rome, as the King of Spain’s Dominions, & the Princes of Italy, the Jesuites and Generallity of all those called Religious Orders, who hold that Papa in Cathedral non prtest errare, licet absque Concilio, that is, that the Pope in his Chair cannot err, though without a Council; or of those that are less devoted, who plead this Infallibility in the Pope and Council lawful convened, who yet by the more zealous are reckoned petty Schismaticks; I say whatever Way we take them, all those that do profess themselves Members of the Romish Church, and are so far such, as to understand their own Principles, do unquestionably acknowledge,

First, That no General Council can be lawfully called, without the Bishop of Rome, as Christ’s Vicar and Peter’s Successor, call it.

Secondly, that either he himself, or some from him, as his Legates must be there present, and alwayes preceed.

Thirdly, That the members having Vote are made up of Bishops, or Prebyters, or Commissoners from the several Orders being of the Clergy.

{Page 76} Fourthly, that what is concluded on by the Plurality of Votes and agreed to by the Pope and his Legates, must necessarily be supposed to be the Judgment of the Infallible Spirit.

{Page 76} Fifthly, That all the Members of the Church are bound implicitly to receive and believe it, because it proceeds from a Council to be accounted lawful in the Respects above mentioned, without Regard to the Intrinsick or Real Truths of the Things prescribed or bringing them in any Respect to the Test or Examination of the Spirit of God in themselves, or the Scriptures Testimony, or their Agreement or Disagreement with Truths formerly believed or received, for so much as to prove or try them by Way of Doubt they reckon a Breach of the first Command, as on the other Hand a matter of Merit implicitly to receive and believe them, however inconsistent with the Testimony of the Spirit in ones own Heart, Scripture Truth and Reason.

Sixthly, That no Man as a member of the Church of Christ in the simple Capacity, unless a Clergy-man, or the Embassadour of some King, &c. can be admitted to sit, vote or give his Judgment.

Seventhly, that it is in no respect to be supposed that any Members, especially Laicks, whether in a particular City, Country, or nation, may meet concerning any Things relating to the Faith and Worship of the Church, and give by the Spirit of God any Judgment, but that all such Meetings are to be accounted Schismatical and Unlawful. And

Lastly, That the Promise Of Infallibility, And the Gates of Hell not prevailing is necessarily annexed to the Pope and Council called and authorized in the Manner above expressed.

Now if to deny every one of these Propostions, wherein all Understanding men know the Errors & abusies of the Romish Church consist, be to be Popish, then indeed may we be {Page 77} supposed to be one with the Papists in this Matter, but no otherwise; so that the very mentioning of these things is sufficient to shew the Difference betwixt us and them, but if any will needs plead our Agreement with them thus;

The Papists affirm an Infallibility of Judgment in the Church of Christ, and so do you; therefore you are one with Papists.

I answer, That proves no more our Oneness in this matter, then if it should be said, the Papists plead that God ought to be worshipped, and so do you; therefore ye agree, notwithstanding of the vast Differences, as to that which is known not only betwixt us and them, but betwixt them and all Protestants who agree more with them in the matter of Worship then we do.

Next again, infallibility in the Church, according as we hold it, & I have above defined it, no man upon our Supposition or Hypothesis can deny it; for since we first assert, as a Principle, that no Gathering, no Church nor Assembly of People, however the their Principles be, or however exact their Form, are to be accounted the Church of Christ, except that infallible Spirit lead and guide, what can be the be the Hazard to say, that in such a Church there is still an infallible Judgement; indeed this is so far from Popery, that it resolves in a Proposition quite contradictory to them: The Romanists say, That the infallible Spirit alwayes accompanies the outward Visible Professors and is annexed to the external Succession of the Bishops and Pastors, though ever so visions, as to their Lives, yea though perfect Atheists andInfidels in their private Judgments1 yet is outwardly professing the Catholics Faith and Subjection to the church, we say on the quite contrary, that where there is either Vitiousness of Persons, or Unsoundness of Judgment in the particular Members, these cannot by Virtue of any outward Call or Succession they have, or any Profession they make, or Authority they may pretend to so much or claim an Interest in any part of the {Page 78} Church of Christ: so then, if we admit none to be Members of the Church but such as are led and guided by the Spirit, it will be no Popery in the Second Place to affirm, that where there is a Company of people so gathered (who are not any longer to retain justly the name of the Church of Christ, then they are led and guided by his Spirit) or a Church so qualified and designed, there is still an infallible Judgment; so that this Infallibility is not annexed to the Persons, to the Succession, to the bare visible Profession, though true (which the Church of Rome is denied to be) or any Society, because of its Professions, but singly and alone to the true real and effectual Work of Sanctification and Regeneration, the New Creature brought forth in the Heart, and this is the Spiritual Man which the Apostle saith, judgeth all Things, i Cor. 2.15. To affirm there is an Infallibility here cannot well be condemned by any, or whoso doth must needs say, the Spirit of God is fallible; for we place the Infallibility in the Spirit and in the Power, not in the Persons and so these are the Degrees we ascend by, because such and such Men are led by the Spirit of God, and are obedient to the Grace in their Hearts, therefore are the Members, Officers in the Church of Christ in the Respect before declared, therefore there is an Infallible Judgment among them: We do not say, because such men profess the Christian Faith, and have received an outward Ordination, and so are by a lawful Succession, formally established Officers in the Church, when they meet together according to certain Conclusions and they cannot but decide what is right, or rather, what they decide must needs be supposed to be right; who seeth not here a vast Disproportion?

Now we differ herein fundamentally, that is, as to the very Basis and Foundation upon which we build and that not only from the Church of Rome, but also from the Generality of Protestants in this matter. All Protestants do acknowledge a general Council to be useful yea, necessary in the Case of {Page 79} Division or Debate, let us consider the Basis upon which they proceed, and the Stress they lay upon it.

First, All jointly, both the Prelatical and Presbyterial will have this Synod or Council to consist of a Convocation of the clergy, chosen and sent from the particular Congregations, with some few laick Elders called together by the Civil Magistrate, in case he be one in Judgment with them.

They decide by Plurality of votes, and though they assume not an absolute Infallibility in that they Reason it possible for them to err, yet do they reckon their Decisions obligatory upon their supposed Consonancy to the Scripture, and however do affirm that the Civil Magistrate hath Power to constrain all to submit and obey, or else to punish them either by Death, Banishment, Confiscation of Goods, or some other Corporeal Pain, even though such be perswaded and offer to make appear, that the Decisions they refuse are contrary to the Scriptures.

And Lastly, As among the Papists, none, though otherwise confessed to be a Member of the Church, both knowing and sober, except commissionate in some of the Respects above declared, can be admitted to fit, vote and give his Judgment. Any that will be at the Pains to apply this to the Foundation I before laid of the infallibility of Judgment, in that we may account only to the truly called the Church of Christ, will easily see the great Difference betwixt us, which I shall sum up in these particulars.

First, Do we exclude any Member of the Church of Christ, that may be truly accounted so, to tell his Judgment?

Secondly, do we say, man ought to be persecuted in the outward for his disassent in Spirituals?

Thirdly, Do we plead that decision is to pass conclusive because of the plurality of Votes? And much more which the Reader may observe from what is already mentioned, which {Page 80} that it may be all more obvious at one view, will appear somewhat clearly by this following Figure, which will give the Reader an opportunity to recollect what lay heretofore more scattered.

The ROMANISTS say.

That there is an Infallibility in the Church, which Infallibility is, whenas the Pope calls a General Council of Bishops, &c. that whatsoever they conclude and agree upon, must needs be the infallible Judgment of the Spirit of God, because of the Promise of Christ, That he would never suffer the Gates of Hell to prevail against his Church; and that the Pope and Council, made up of certain of the Clergy, having one outward Succession, and being lawfully arraigned according to the Canons, are that Church to which that Promise is made, however wicked or depraved they be, yet this Infallible Judgment follows them, as being necessarily annexed to their Office, in which the Authority still stands in its full Strength and Vigour; so that there lies an Obligation upon the whole Body of the Church to obey their Decrees; and such as do not, are not only certainly damned for their disobedience, but that it is the Duty of the Civil Magistrate to punish such by Death, Banishment, or Imprisonment &c. in Case they refuse.

->The Generality of PROTESTANTS say.<-

That though all Synods and Councils may err, yet such Assemblies are needful for the Edification of the Church; that such do consist of a Convocation of the Clergy, with some few Laicks particularly chose; that all of others, except those so elected, have not any Right to vote or give Judgment2 that such an Assembly, so constitute, may materially determine Controversies of Faith, Cases of Conscience, Matters of Worship, and authoritatively determine the same; the Decision is to be by Plurality of votes, without any necessary Respect to the inward Holiness or Regeneration of the Persons; if so be they be outwardly called, ordained and invested in such a Place and Capacity to be {Page 81} Members of such an Assembly, what they thus decide (as they judge according to the Scripture) ought to be received with Reverence and submitted to, and those that do not, to be punished by the Civil Magistrate by Death, Banishment or Imprisonment, though they declare and be ready to evidence, that it is because they are not agreeable to the Scripture, they refuse such Decrees.

The QUAKERS say.

That whereas one truly ought nor can be accounted the Church of Christ, but such as are in a measured sanctified or sanctifying by the Grace of God, and led by his Spirit, nor yet any made Officers in the Church, but by the Grace of God, and inward Revelation of his Spirit; not by outward Ordination or Succession, from which none is to be excluded, of so called, whether Married, or a Tradesman, or a Servant; if so be in such a Church there should arise any Difference, there will be an infallible Judgment from the Spirit of God, which may be in a General Assembly, yet not limited to it as excluding others, and may prove the Judgment of the Plurality, yet not to be decided thereby, as if the Infallibility were placed there, excluding the fewer, in which a {Page 82} Meeting or Assembly upon such an Account; there is no Limitation to be of Persons particularly chosen, but that all that in a true Sense may be reckoned of the Church, as being sober and weighty, may be present, and give their Judgment; and that the Infallible Judgment of Truth, which cannot be wanting in such a Church, whether it be given through one or more, ought to be submitted to, not because such Persons give it, but because the Spirit leads so to do, which every one coming to in themselves will willingly and naturally assent to; and if any through Disobedience or Unclearness do not all that the Church ought to do, is to deny them her spiritual Fellowship, in case the nature of their Disobedience be of that Consequence as may deserve such a Censure. But by no means for Matter of Conscience to Molest, Trouble, or Persecute any in their Outwards.

Who will be at the Pains to compare these Three seriously together, I am hopeful will need no further Argument to prove the Difference. But if any will further object, What if it fall out de facto, that the Teachers, Elders, or Plurality do decide, and from thence will say, this is like the Church of Rome, and other false Churches, it will be hard to prove that to be an infallible Mark of a Wrong Judgment, as we have not said it is of a Right. And indeed, to conclude it were so, would necessarily condemn the Church in the Apostles dayes, where we see the Teachers and Elders, and so far as we can observe, the greater number did agree to the Decision, Acts 1.15. for if the thing be right, and according to Truth, it is so much the better that the Elders and greater Number do agree to it, and if wrong, their affirming of it will not make it right: And truly, a {Page 83} Gathering, where the Elders and greater Numbers are always or most frequently wrong, and the younger and lesser Number right, is such as we cannot suppose the true Church of Christ to be; and if any will plead, that there is now no infallible Judgment to be expected from the Spirit of God in the Church. It no doubt will leave the Dissenters as much in the Mist, and at as great a loss as those they dissent from, both being no better then blind men, hitting at random, which will turn Christianity into Sceptism; XR1684and though we may acknowledge, that the Uncertainty prevails in the generality of those called Churches; yet we do firmly believe, (for the Reasons above declared, and that for many more that might be given) That the true Church of Christ has a more solid stable Foundation, and being never separated from Christ, her Head, walks in a more Certain, steady and Unerring Path.


  1. For some Popes have been known to deny or at least to doubt the Truth of the Scriptures, as to the History of Christ, & to call in question the Immortality of the Soul, and the Resurrection.

  2. West. one of Faith, chap.

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